Quicknote Suggestion - Feedback wanted

Category: Zone BBS Suggestions and Feedback

Post 1 by admin (I just keep on posting!) on Monday, 21-Feb-2005 16:21:33

It's been suggested that we change the default in the send QUicknote to box to the last private note sent. Right now it defaults to the person that sent the last Quicknote regardless. There's a few ways we could go with thous:
1. Leave it as it is.
2. Default to last private Quicknote, or to all if no private Quicknote received.
3. Default to last private QUicknote, else to last public Quicknote.
4. Something else that I'm not thinking of.

Thoughts?

Post 2 by sugarbaby (The voice of reason) on Monday, 21-Feb-2005 16:56:59

i would set it to all, that way people won't get confused as to who they sent qn to first, and will know its set to all and confusion will not occur

Post 3 by Caitlin (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Monday, 21-Feb-2005 17:00:20

I vote it should automatically be set to All Users at the end of the quicknote section. I send most quicknotes to all users, and I figure if i'm doing a private conversation, I want to be sure I'm sending it to the right person anyway, and so would check the combo box.

Post 4 by Chris N (I just keep on posting!) on Monday, 21-Feb-2005 17:21:14

I like this too actually.

Post 5 by sugar (Entertain me. I dare you.) on Monday, 21-Feb-2005 17:41:58

yeh, definitely to all by default,

Post 6 by jrimer (Please visit my home page at http://personal.wbby.us.) on Monday, 21-Feb-2005 17:47:06

If you want my opinion, feel free to put it at all if no private quicknotes, and to the person who sent you one if one was sent.

Post 7 by admin (I just keep on posting!) on Monday, 21-Feb-2005 17:51:58

going to move it to all for now. it'll be live soon, if not already after you've read this.

Post 8 by n1umj (Veteran Zoner) on Monday, 21-Feb-2005 18:05:10

I like the default all, last private note would be nice but who the hell am I anyway?

Post 9 by fastfinge (I can't call it a day til I enter the zone BBS) on Monday, 21-Feb-2005 19:19:14

I know this is unrelated, but timestamps would really be cool.

Post 10 by JH_Radio (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Monday, 21-Feb-2005 20:40:18

Huh? Default to all? Quicknotes? Private? Huh... I'm so so so so lost!

Post 11 by Leafs Fan (I'll have the last word, thank you!) on Monday, 21-Feb-2005 21:58:25

In my opinion, if this were to be changed, it would be best to have it default to the last person from whom a private note was received. However, personally, I like it the way it is.

Post 12 by Jess227 on Tuesday, 22-Feb-2005 0:02:42

either way is ok with me.

Post 13 by Dave_H (the boringest guy you'll ever know) on Tuesday, 22-Feb-2005 1:12:03

I'd leave it alone, but, what ever way you do it is fine; just be consistent

Post 14 by faileddesign (Veteran Zoner) on Tuesday, 22-Feb-2005 4:49:45

i like the all thing personally

Post 15 by kool_turk (This site is so "educational") on Tuesday, 22-Feb-2005 5:53:46

I say set it to all.

Post 16 by Chris N (I just keep on posting!) on Tuesday, 22-Feb-2005 6:51:55

It's now set to all. I like the idea of time stamps, or at least how long since the quick note has been sent.

Post 17 by sugar (Entertain me. I dare you.) on Tuesday, 22-Feb-2005 7:23:23

yeh, that'd be helpful, as long as it's not too intrusive. you could have it below the note so that it doesnt' get in the way? or something?

Post 18 by cuddle_kitten84 (I just keep on posting!) on Tuesday, 22-Feb-2005 10:55:45

i prefered it the way it was before, so you could tell who last ent you a quick note. i get confused now when it comes up as all users in the combo box as sometimes you could forget who you were talking too if you are busy with something else.

Post 19 by sugar (Entertain me. I dare you.) on Tuesday, 22-Feb-2005 12:03:05

yeh, upon reflection, i think i liked it better as it was....

Post 20 by cuddle_kitten84 (I just keep on posting!) on Tuesday, 22-Feb-2005 15:52:15

oh yeah, can we also have a note put in omewhere to let you know if someone is ignoring you? i keep sending someone quick notes and they don't reply, it would be useful to know if they were ignoring you or not, then you wouldn't keep sending that person messages.

Post 21 by kool_turk (This site is so "educational") on Wednesday, 23-Feb-2005 1:05:02

That's a good idea.

Post 22 by n1umj (Veteran Zoner) on Wednesday, 23-Feb-2005 9:37:25

Now that it's been this way for a couple days, having it default to the last person that sent me a private note would be much much much better and al the rest of the time and I know a few others are feelign the same way that I've talked to.

Post 23 by Telemachus (Death: the destroyer of worlds.) on Wednesday, 23-Feb-2005 12:10:24

Defaulting to all if no private QN's are received is cool. If a private QN is received, I think the QN send thing should default to that person.

Post 24 by wildebrew (We promised the world we'd tame it, what were we hoping for?) on Wednesday, 23-Feb-2005 12:32:05

Hey
Sorry for not weighing in on this earlier.
I've always been of the opinion that defaulting to last private note sent is the best thing to do. That way if you're having a private conversation with someone you don't have to constantly scroll to find that person. To send to all users all you have to do is press the home key in the list box and such you can send a note to all users without any scrolling. This would definitly be my ideal configuration, not that it matters all that much, if you wanted to add complexity to the site (jeez, wouldn't you want to) you can even have the user configure this him/herself, have 2 to 3 options (just add a column to a user config table) and have them select how they want this, just a thought.
cheers
-B

Post 25 by Saxman (Account disabled) on Wednesday, 23-Feb-2005 13:39:13

personally the all users default method works fine. I hate the idea of time stamps because they would cause the screen reader to chatter unless they could be toggled. I hate even more the idea of being told when someone is ignoring you. I sure wouldn't like someone with a nasty temper or a vindictive personality finding out that I put them on ignore, particularly if I know the person locally.

Post 26 by FreakyFwoof (The London Lief and Meep Freak) on Wednesday, 23-Feb-2005 13:57:09

Agreeing with some points here: Saxman: Ignore, yes bad. MSN doesn't tell you when you've been ignored,I can't think of any messenger that would, therefore this should follow the trend of not doing so.
I like the QN the way it is now actually, but a quick-note received privately, whether it be at the top or bottom of the list, or in the middle, should make the box go to that person. that way nobody is confused.
In the prior method, if anyone forgot to go to all users, they could send a random private note to the last person who's note came in, private or not. Strange.

Post 27 by sugarbaby (The voice of reason) on Wednesday, 23-Feb-2005 16:14:31

or send a private note to all users which I've seen happen quite a few times in recent days. hmmm .. sadly the private notes didn't contain anything that interesting, grin

Post 28 by JH_Radio (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Wednesday, 23-Feb-2005 20:00:33

Personally, I think it should be a ccostimizable option. More options for users is better then just having a site somewhere govern for all. Yes. This has happend where peopople mean to send a pirvate ote, and it dets sent to al users by accident. I like WildBrew's idea of having itit be costominzable. John Now that I actually underwtand what people are talking about!

Post 29 by Jage (Zone BBS, a decade of madness) on Thursday, 24-Feb-2005 1:06:35

Thanks for the feedback. As for the ignore thing, there's a slight problem with the current implementation. It's currently possible to find out if someone's ignorring you by sending them a private message. You'll be told if it doesn't send because they're ignorring you, since this was added a couple of weeks ago. If we removed this, how should the message be handled? SHould it just be sent to them then but they won't see it? Maybe that'd be the better way of handling it.

Post 30 by Jage (Zone BBS, a decade of madness) on Thursday, 24-Feb-2005 1:31:30

OK. Next site update, which will probably show up today, has the box default to all unless there's a private note, then it goes to last private note. Also, private notes were being shown in reverse if there was more than one, now fixed.

Post 31 by sugar (Entertain me. I dare you.) on Thursday, 24-Feb-2005 6:39:11

I'm sorry, but I don't see what the big deal is. I want to know if someone's ignoring me so I dont' waste my time. Msn does tell you in a way. You can see who has added you to their contact list in the privacy tab by pressing the view button. You can't tell if someone simply blocks you but still has you added, but so what? I've always thought knowing who ignores you is a great idea.

Post 32 by Jage (Zone BBS, a decade of madness) on Thursday, 24-Feb-2005 14:57:50

True, but the point remains. I can't think of a precident where people are told that they're ignorred. Not saying we shouldn't, but even if it makes a few uncomfortable, maybe we shouldn't do it?

Post 33 by sugarbaby (The voice of reason) on Thursday, 24-Feb-2005 16:29:37

if someone has quicknotes turned off their name does not appear in the qn combo box, so how about if you're being ignored by a user, could their name not appear on your qn combo box so you'd therefore be unable to send them quicknotes? that way it wouldn't blatantly tell you you were being ignored, you just wouldn't be able to qn the ignoree, if that's a word, grin

Post 34 by Jess227 on Thursday, 24-Feb-2005 20:22:17

Yup another thing I'm curious is what if someone shuts quick notes off completely? How is this possible to know if that's been done?

Post 35 by Jess227 on Thursday, 24-Feb-2005 20:26:11

I blocked myself to see weather or not you're told if you're ignored and it didn't say I was ignored ....It just erased the message before it came to me when I refreshed the page. I do think the idea to remove that user's name off the combo box is a better idea this way you'll know if this person has blocked you but wondering if this will imply to also those who turn QNs off. Not a big deal just a curious mind.

Post 36 by kool_turk (This site is so "educational") on Thursday, 24-Feb-2005 20:27:31

I agree with post 33.

Post 37 by admin (I just keep on posting!) on Thursday, 24-Feb-2005 22:52:12

I'm talking about private mail. Right now it'll tell you if you try to write someone that's ignorring you.

Post 38 by Caitlin (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Friday, 25-Feb-2005 0:37:23

I like it the way it is now, but I think it would be nifty, like others have mentioned, if someone sent you a private quicknote, it could be set to that person automatically or somethign. But maybe I wouldn't liek that. I don't know! All I know is I keep sending private quicknotes publically by mistake. But I'm sure I'll learn to bem ore careful and I definitely liek the all usrs thign better than just the last sender. So I vote leave it for now. Niftiness!
Caitlin

Post 39 by Happy Little Faith (One day closer to eternity! Wahoooooooo!) on Tuesday, 22-Mar-2005 20:47:16

Personally, i like it when i am notifyed if I have been ignored. I have had people wonder why they were not getting there reply from me. I have had people ask me if I am getting notes from the surtin person that I have blocked, and then I have had ot say that I have blocked them. It is hard news to break, so, i would love it if there was a way to notify the person who has been blocked.

Post 40 by wonderwoman (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Wednesday, 23-Mar-2005 21:33:35

well, I think it would be interesting to know who's ignoring me or has me blocked, but since I never use public quicknotes, and only use private quicknotes occasionnally, no one has a reason to put me on ignore.
wonderwoman

Post 41 by lights_rage (I just keep on posting!) on Saturday, 26-Mar-2005 14:49:55

Ok, I think if it were set to all it would improve the time we take trying to get it back up to the top plus sometimes you get mor than one private qn so you may not want to answer the last person first just my thoughts.